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Takamori Maruyama Amarr Red Federation RvB - RED Federation	Posted - 2011.08.09 14:54:00 - [1] Why I can't be a new player :(? Well not so new now...20 days played so far(I think)
Takamori Maruyama Amarr Red Federation RvB - RED Federation	Posted - 2011.08.09 14:57:00 - [2] I got 950k SP and 25 mill isk.
Takamori Maruyama Amarr Red Federation RvB - RED Federation	Posted - 2011.08.09 15:12:00 - [3] Edited by: Takamori Maruyama on 09/08/2011 15:14:45 Edited by: Takamori Maruyama on 09/08/2011 15:13:21 Originally by: Thornat Originally by: Takamori Maruyama I got 950k SP and 25 mill isk. Well 25 million isk is certainly sufficient to affort a few T1 frigate losses. Have you braved 0.0 or low sec? Any PvP? Any PvP success? Whats being a newbie like in Eve these days? Well I make the calculations of how much ISK I will spent per punisher fitted, normally I spend 3-4 mill per punisher. I have braved -0.7 with RvB, gives a nice tension feeling, even with the good scouting that we had in that night.(That night I learned about the bubble ganks, since the commander explained everything about em, but thank god we didnt fall in any). PvP I love engaging large scale PvP, even if my frig get targeted by cruised and blow up in a second haha. PvP success I say that Im still learning, getting pointers from corp mates and from my enemy corp.(Thanks to then that we can have this fun war). As for being newbie on EVE sometimes I feel powerless in fitting a frigate, need some skills to fit certain pieces etc etc. But then I realize and say to myself , its just a matter of time. I plan to be specced pilot on frigates, don't wanna pilot anything else, just frigates. My wet dream is getting a Malediction Interceptor.But according to my calculation I will need 1-2 months to get enough skills to pilot it properly(Having just the basics is not enough for me) After I get enough experience join a good Mercenary Company.
Takamori Maruyama Amarr Red Federation RvB - RED Federation	Posted - 2011.08.09 15:55:00 - [4] Originally by: Thornat Well you don't sound like an alt to me, so I will take your word for it. But what your doing is right on. I mean to me while I love the Indystrial stuff and I have a lot of skill points on it, its really just my cash cow often being more of a burden as I find it can be rather tedious and boring. Nothing beats playing Eve from a frigate you know you can afford to loose, it allows you to be daring and foolish, while simultanously learning. But your one of the lucky examples of how it should be done. You find some friends and join a corp, thats Eve, thats how you get the most out of the game. Well I enjoy frigates because they give me sometimes that old feeling of playing combat flight simulator.As for industrial activities, its all good when its just business, problem when politics join the room.
Takamori Maruyama Amarr Red Federation RvB - RED Federation	Posted - 2011.08.09 18:58:00 - [5] Edited by: Takamori Maruyama on 09/08/2011 19:05:40 Hehe I giggle everytime I hear "mindless" blob. Well try to be the wing commander when its a "mindless" blob with different types of ships and outfittings out there. Calling the wrong target,wrong maneuver and you are condemning your entire fleet. Nothing against small scale pvp, actually I endorse it, gives more adrenaline. But calling large scale PvP as mindless, you sir have no idea about the subject. And the problem with EvE is how he receive naive new players. Those players expect : What those players get:
Takamori Maruyama Amarr Red Federation RvB - RED Federation	Posted - 2011.08.10 14:58:00 - [6] Originally by: jackaloped Originally by: Takamori Maruyama Edited by: Takamori Maruyama on 09/08/2011 19:05:40 Hehe I giggle everytime I hear "mindless" blob. Well try to be the wing commander when its a "mindless" blob with different types of ships and outfittings out there. Calling the wrong target,wrong maneuver and you are condemning your entire fleet.... Earlier you were claiming you were new to the game. Now you are going to tell me I have no clue? Yes FCs do have to think. But the majority of the rest of the blob just act as mindless drones shooting what the fc tells them to shoot. The eve mechanics make it so this is how the majority of eve combat works. FW was the only exception to this with the plex restrictions but ccp is apparently going to abandon that. Look at the videos. One says new players are a great asset. It is true. Why? Becasue blob warfare does not take skill, it just takes lots and lots of lemmings. The other video shows a couple of fail fit rifters doing ... well mostly nothing. Given that since I arrived on EVE I've been just doing PVP :P. Like I said before and you ignored, 1 vs 50 of course its a friggin mindless blob. 50 vs 50, now its based on which fleet have the skilled pilots, to scout, make jumps,hero tackling,baiting, traps etc etc. Or you think that everyone there will just shut down the damn ship speed and shoot like a turret?
Takamori Maruyama Amarr Red Federation RvB - RED Federation	Posted - 2011.08.10 16:24:00 - [7] Originally by: jackaloped Edited by: jackaloped on 10/08/2011 15:25:41 Edited by: jackaloped on 10/08/2011 15:22:56 Originally by: Takamori Maruyama Originally by: jackaloped Originally by: Takamori Maruyama Edited by: Takamori Maruyama on 09/08/2011 19:05:40 Hehe I giggle everytime I hear "mindless" blob. Well try to be the wing commander when its a "mindless" blob with different types of ships and outfittings out there. Calling the wrong target,wrong maneuver and you are condemning your entire fleet.... Earlier you were claiming you were new to the game. Now you are going to tell me I have no clue? Yes FCs do have to think. But the majority of the rest of the blob just act as mindless drones shooting what the fc tells them to shoot. The eve mechanics make it so this is how the majority of eve combat works. FW was the only exception to this with the plex restrictions but ccp is apparently going to abandon that. Look at the videos. One says new players are a great asset. It is true. Why? Becasue blob warfare does not take skill, it just takes lots and lots of lemmings. The other video shows a couple of fail fit rifters doing ... well mostly nothing. Given that since I arrived on EVE I've been just doing PVP :P. Like I said before and you ignored, 1 vs 50 of course its a friggin mindless blob. 50 vs 50, now its based on which fleet have the skilled pilots, to scout, make jumps,hero tackling,baiting, traps etc etc. Or you think that everyone there will just shut down the damn ship speed and shoot like a turret? I think 50 v 50 with relatively even odds (ie not 50 BCs versus 50 t1 frigates) takes a very very long time to find in the current eve mechanics. You will get many many more 50 v 1 mindless battles. It doesn't take allot of skill to "make jumps." Scouting takes some skill. Baiting? No I don't think bait and blob requires much skill. Edit: I see you are in rvb. I also participated in that and think it is good. But it's very existence proves there is something lacking in eve. That is EVE lacks mechanics that bring about quality small scale pvp so the players have to agree to special rules and arrange fights. In the small scale pvp I agree with you 100%. The problem is the sandbox mechanic you need the right time, right place and the right players to create the experience and there is no way to separate it.Since there is no mechanism to lock the region just for that small fleets. And the game is very harsh with those who solo it.And to those who wanna go rampage(with the security status). They could beef up the low sec with the benefit of not losing sec status when you blow someone ship.Podding the rule would remain the same, since you murdered someone. In my PoV that would encourage the small scale pvp.
Takamori Maruyama Amarr Red Federation RvB - RED Federation	Posted - 2011.08.10 19:21:00 - [8] Originally by: Sader Rykane Why dying in T1 frigates is universally toted as the "bee's knees" is something I never understood. If I wanted to get quick no loss pvp, I'de play an FPS. WoW or any "recent" mmo. They dumbed down the games way too much that's why people have fear of losing stuff, they got used with the no penalty , no consequence actions.
Takamori Maruyama Amarr Red Federation RvB - RED Federation	Posted - 2011.08.11 14:57:00 - [9] I would kill someone for a DEV answer regarding the small scale pvp :(

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